
Monday rolls around, and you’re still at home, feeling like hell, and wanting to be in the office.
Did you find a job you love? Maybe so!
But for the rest of us lost cubicle souls hating on work, we’re dying to know how to survive a job you hate until retirement.
The inspiration for this post is a book I’m reading: This is the Year I Put My Financial Life in Order. The author, John Schwartz, struck a nerve. He never complained an iota about his day job as a journalist, throughout the 200+ pages of personal finance anecdotes.
If it were my book, you’d expect the title to be “Cubicle Loathing”, and the pages peppered with Office Space-like anecdotes. That’s what you’d expect, but today we’re going to focus on the silver linings of the unheralded corporate day job. Rat racers, strap on those kicks!
9 Things I Tolerate About a Job
- It gets me out of the house. Cabin fever during the winter months is especially dulling.
- It instantly surrounds me with other people. Generally good people. And many of my friendships originated in the office.
- It makes me feel like a responsible grown-up on Monday through Friday. Everyone else is here. I should be here too. Prison FOMO?
- It makes me at least feel like I’m smart and capable.
- My day job forces me to bathe, shave, and dress like I give two sh*ts about my appearance. Mrs. Cubert loves this, especially after a weekend of regression to ultimate bum.
- Free cake! Maybe even free lunch? Depends on the mood your boss is in.
- Occasional happy hours, coffee breaks, and lunches with colleagues fill my social cup.
- There are occasions when you get to exercise autonomy, mastery, and purpose. You feel good about getting big things done, on your terms. (Read Drive by Daniel Pink.)
- It offers an area for self-improvement. Soft skills. Technical skills. You name it. Most office jobs are at least as good as a gladiator’s arena. Slay the grizzly bear, and you move up to face more ominous beasts. Promotions are hard to come by the higher up you move, but you still have a stretch goal to work towards.
See, a job offers something more than just a paycheck. I’ll be the first to admit that it’s hard to look past that if you’ve got a not-so-great boss, or the work drains the sap out of you, and/or your commute is forever and a day.
Surviving a cubicle job for the long haul is another topic. This list is intended to highlight the good stuff. As marginal as that “good stuff” seems during the low points, you may find yourself yearning for the “good old days” when retired.
Confucius’s Take on How to Survive a Job You Hate Until Retirement
“Do everything in moderation, even moderation.”
Thanks, Confucius. So now what? We can’t just sit around in our pajamas staring out the living room window, while everyone else is hunkered down in their cubicles.
Can we?? That sounds depressing. The antidote comes in two flavors, at least for those of us who can’t sit still and have a strong desire to “be productive”:
- Find work you love at least twice as much as you hate. If it’s 50-50 or less, you’ll eventually burn to cinders.
- Quit. And move on to start that home building business, carpentry business, blogging empire, or simply walk some dogs. The world is your oyster!
- Reduce your hours and work part-time. An ideal path for many, after a strong decade of stashing away paychecks like a bandit.
Confucius had it right. When it comes to the work-life you may despise right at this moment, consider what fragments of that world you might appreciate. The idea is to replace those things, especially the camaraderie and purpose, once in retirement.
I think Confucius would’ve been a fine blogger if he lived in the 21st century. The guy had some very applicable quotes even though they’re from 500 B.C. A few of these nuggets apply to the topic at hand:
Choose a job you love, and you will never have to work a day in your life.”
“It is not the failure of others to appreciate your abilities that should trouble you, but rather your failure to appreciate theirs.”
He’s going hard after the whiners with that last one. Yep. Time to dust up your EQ and set that ego aside. Be a TEAM PLAYER. Okay, one more before we move on:
Those people who develop the ability to continuously acquire new and better forms of knowledge that they can apply to their work and to their lives will be the movers and shakers in our society for the indefinite future.”
In other words, keep finding better ways to do your job and live your life. Remove the waste. Maybe move closer to work, so you aren’t spending godawful amounts of time stuck in commutes. At the very least, don’t settle into comfort zones, either at work or in your personal life. Stagnation leads to problems! (Cubert, c. 2018)

If You Don’t Like Your Job Because of Pay
You’ll never know if you never ask. Ever heard that one before? Well, it’s true. I finally got wise to this halfway into my current gig, maybe a half-dozen years ago. If you know you’ve been performing well, and you’re low in your pay band, why not have a little chat with your boss?
As a manager, I appreciate it when my direct reports bring this topic to my attention. I can’t snap my fingers and make raises happen on the spot, but come review time, if they’ve hit their targets, I’ll look at equity across the team, and guess what?
If you put it in my mind that your salary is a priority, I will consciously look to bump your raise. Sometimes it may not be more than a percent or two, but every bit counts.
I have gone out of my way to let each of my last three managers know that I expected to be paid more. I made sure to perform up to and exceeding expectations.
Come review time, boom, good raises followed. Had I not asked or respectfully asked for more, I doubt I’d have gotten as much.
All I did was share at least once during the year my concern about my pay. That kind of thing sticks in a manager’s head come review time.
Become a Career “Home Run Hitter”
This concept is all about finding the right work assignments within your company. You want to be attached to the bigger, more important projects, if at all possible.
I’ve been pretty fortunate throughout my most recent stint to have been attached to some highly visible projects. There are trade-offs of course. Those extra hours and weekends can be taxing, especially if you’ve just started a family.
Nevertheless, if you want the big bucks, you have to put your neck on the line, so to speak. Resilience is important to see the job through. Get that project “across the line” and your managers and customers will take notice.
If you are okay with small projects and delivering well as a singles hitter, there’s nothing wrong with that. But the pay and rewards will reflect the level of intensity and visibility of the assignment.
The environment today is pretty good for finding a decent-paying job. Innovation is on (almost) everyone’s mind in the corporate boardroom. Many of the few smart execs have been reading up on (Blank) and looking to implement their lean way of delivering innovative solutions.
This leads me to the final tip: If all else fails, and you are simply not getting what you need, jump ship. Switching companies is often the single most effective way to boost your pay. But be careful – too much movement can backfire in the long term. Recent studies have shown that tenure is often a better indicator of high compensation.
Preparing for Early Retirement Keeps Your Mind Off the Bad Stuff
While preparing for retirement, personal growth happens. Since my early retirement journey began in late 2014, I figured it’d be a race to the finish line. Sprint fast to get through the next hellish 5 or 6 years, not caring about being a better employee whatsoever. I was worried I might not reach that finishing tape and get canned for losing focus.
Well, here I stand, a little over four years later. Still employed and staring down a likely promotion, of all things. Strange as that sounds, I think it’s probably more common than not for FIRE types.
Chances are, if you’re driven to make, save, and invest your money wisely, you might just wind up applying that same drive and determination at work.
You have to build up your EQ and muster the resilience necessary to become a better employee. A Purple Life is realizing that the pursuit of financial independence offers the unanticipated benefit of workplace confidence and control.
Purple’s post plots a timeline of the various jobs she’s held these past five years. With each gig, she’s recognizing an emerging capacity to manage the bullsh*t. Is that the key? Give yourself a long enough runway to learn and grow, until you’re able to control and flip the situation into a sustainable one.
I’d bet most of us don’t reach this “level of control” until our mid-to-late 30s. For many of us, it really can take several years (if ever!) to fully rationalize our value to an employer, and feel secure in the hamster wheel. That’s how the corporate journey has played out for me at least…
Learn From Your Mistakes
In my 20s, work sucked. I enjoyed interacting with most of my colleagues, but I was a punk. I had a problem with authority and a penchant for making excuses. Not a good mix for advancement.
In one instance, I simply walked out of a meeting when I disagreed with my boss on some trivial point. Everyone else, it seemed, was a better employee than me.
In another, I lost my cool with the same boss over a computer server outage. I was focused on resolving the problem. His beef was that I hadn’t notified him about it. A lot of yelling at each other later, my career path at that company veered quickly into lay-off country. (He was a punk. And he got canned a year and a forced transfer later.)
I reasoned with myself that I’d be employed until age 60 or 65, so I had plenty of time to figure it all out. Good thing, because I found that work still sucked in my 30s. At least by then, I had started to catch on to “the game”. That’s the cool thing about experience and reflection: Wisdom accumulates in the willing brain.
With intent, we actually can and do change. I found myself vastly improving how I interacted with people and how I handled difficult situations. Of course, for that growth to occur, you first have to be self-aware enough to recognize that you commit the occasional f*ck-up.
In my 40s I finally landed in a role that better suited my strengths. Finally, I could perform at a high level. It only took 18 years to get to this point. And sadly, those preceding 18 years (which included a lay-off in the middle) left a bad taste in my mouth for Corporate America.
Sure, I know how to operate excel, finally. But even today, all it takes sometimes is the slightest setback for me to question this entire corporate scene. That’s when I reach for FIRE. (It spells “Relief”!)

Goal Setting Helps Your Performance
Here’s the fun part. You might discover, with that curious and insightful mind of yours, that a headstrong pursuit of early retirement translates into better performance at work. How ironic is THAT?? Here you are, plotting and scheming a magical day when you can shock the hell out of everyone with your resignation notice.
Instead, you start to get plum assignments and promotions. How’d that happen?? Maybe it’s because your riding to work habit has you energized for the day. That and you’re now avoiding the dreaded and stressful clown-car commute (NOT a great way to start your day).
Maybe you just plain have hope since stumbling upon the early retirement option (whereas before, you felt beholden to at-will employment until age 65…?) The twist here is that again, it’s all about control.
You come out of early retirement boot camp with a newfound sense of ownership of your career situation. And largely, that’s because you now have your sh*t together concerning money.
I like to project my own experiences as theories that hold water, so please by all means “call out the leaks” in the comments below. For now, hear me out. There are some very real opportunities to shine at the office, assuming you apply yourself.
Here are 5 nuggets of wisdom to get you to “Yes!” when asked, “Is it possible to love your job?” Even if you’re ready to go all Office Space on the joint:
- Freewheeling with Financial Concepts, spreadsheets, and forecasts: In the process of becoming better stewards of our finances, we become more proficient in managing the company’s dollars. Funny how that works, but it’s true. Wasteful spending on projects? Not on my watch!
- Crushing it with Confidence: The closer you get to early retirement, the less worried you are about messing up. You are free to take risks. I’m not suggesting an approach that’s devil-may-care, or harum-scarum. But you find your voice among leaders and are more apt to put forward ideas in a calculated, well-conceived way.
- Relatability: You’ll notice more empathy and camaraderie with colleagues. Why? Because you’re bringing your FIRE community-building skills with you to the office. Not only that, but you’ve eliminated so many distractions in your own life, that you can finally listen (with intent) to others, and a good listener is typically in short supply.
- Doubled-down on Discipline: You now wake up at 5 AM. Every. Day. You can choose to write blog posts, or, get through all of your work emails and hammer out your goals for the day. You’ll even have a head start on your boss. And for extra credit, you make an effort to ride your bike to work consistently.
- Pontiff of Prioritization — work and life: The FIRE ecosystem offers a wealth of wisdom on economizing our lives. Cut out the excess (cut the cord and downsize). Focus on what’s important. Get organized. Pursue minimalism, without going overboard. Pursue simplification in your tasks and projects, just like we do with investing by sticking with easy-peasy index funds.
Bring Common Sense Into Cubicle Nation
It’ll be telling as time goes on to see how Corporate America responds to the FIRE movement, if at all. There’s tremendous pressure on the job market with many skilled gigs difficult to fill. As a hiring manager, I’d find it depressing to have to settle for “iffy” talent.
Will executives and HR influencers make the necessary changes to entice good workers, who’d otherwise retire early? Their work is cut out for them. But some, like Base Camp CEO Jason Fried, feel it’s entirely within reach. I’m anxious to pick up a copy of his book, It Doesn’t Have to Be Crazy at Work. 40-hour workweek? Preposterous I say!
A Purple Life sums it up quite well:
…the benefits of pursuing FIRE are not just monetary. It’s not just about reaching financial independence or early retirement. Even incremental steps down the FIRE path seemed to have profound impacts on my life.
Not only do I feel more financially secure each passing day, but through this journey, I have been able to seriously reflect on what kind of career I want and strive for it instead of being afraid of what an authority figure might think.
These last few posts have brought out a bit of the skeptic in me. I’m finding that I like getting out of the house from time to time and that I can tolerate the game at work most days.
I’ve recognized there is some ebb and flow to my career journey and I happen to be in a pretty decent place today. It sure took a while to reach this point, and it is suspicious how it occurred towards the tail-end of my 5-year exit plan.
Will I retire early as planned next year? It’s too soon to tell, but I put my odds at 50-50. Not because I can’t or won’t have the means, but because I might have found a way to make the hamster wheel pay off.
Maybe it helps that my wife and kids have their daily routines – that I feel I should play my part to suit up for duty. It could be something to that.
But until I’ve found my real and ideal struggle, absent a career, I might just keep on ambling along with these new and useful skills I’ve honed. Thanks to the pursuit of early retirement. Stay tuned…
Conclusion
Don’t forget to take stock of the good things your day job offers. It’s not prison after all.
When in retirement, after the immediate magic of that never-ending vacation wears off, you might start to itch for some of the practical jokes, coffee breaks, or stretch goals mentioned in that top 10 list earlier.
Camaraderie, commiseration, and free cake are worth more than maybe we consider while plotting and scheming our early retirement exits.
My new personal nut to crack is to resolve these things before I hang up the day job. This past weekend plus a sick day on Monday was a reminder of how ill-prepared I am to hunker down at the house during the wintertime, without a job to go to. Crazy how this author suddenly has reservations about a world without the cubicle.
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I love the coding part. I like making things, and writing good code gives me the same satisfaction. What I don’t like is when I have to write code to fix something quickly, instead of properly. I also don’t like meetings and spending the whole day in a cubicle.
– I don’t like free lunch – It usually means that someone arranged a meeting during my lunch hour.
– I don’t like how everyone is busy telling everyone who will listen (and usually there is no one listening) about how hard they work.
– I don’t like how I am expected to be passionate. Like any other emotion, it comes and goes. I am not happy every day. Or sad. Why should I feel passionate every day?
– I like that I get to learn new things.
– I like that someone is ready to pay so much.
– I like that my job is flexible enough.
– I like that my skills are in demand, and I can find a new job anytime.
– I like the people around me (sometimes)
I would definitely put you in the “50-50 or less” crowd, along with yours truly! 🙂 Thanks for sharing, Busy Mom!
I wanted to write the same thing so cannot resist copying your comment and “fixing” it for my needs 🙂
Most of the jobs (things) have its pros and cons. The main problem areas I see are:
-what are you working on (fulfillment and satisfaction)
-how are you supposed to work (doing it right)
-when are you supposed to work (the mandatory “BE THERE” part)
-how much do they pay for it (the benefits)
The more of these is how they like them the happier would you be with your job and to be honest, there are companies out there who recognized this already, hope this will be a trend. In that case, the “Choose a job you love, and you will never have to work a day in your life.” quote could easily apply 🙂
Right on, Brother from the Far East! Or Near East? Eastern Europe…
I really appreciate yours and Busy Mom’s shared list. Very typical for coders and I see it where I work as well. Trouble strikes when politics and bad actors seemingly conspire to make your job a real pain. Too many coders at our org get caught at the end of projects trying to fix defects caused by bad requirements and poor testing. A common tale.
My job has its share of good and bad. If people are realistic most do. I tend to lean towards the positive side. But every now and then I go the other way. It seems we’re on opposite wave lengths because my post this week was about work sucks.
I’ll definitely be checking out your post, FTF. Yeah, “there is a season…” blah blah I could go on, but ultimately the traditional cube job situation is truly for the birds.
“Fact: I’m getting older all the time. And dude, those are clearly high waters. Never in-fashion!”
Leaving the office today I saw a kid who’s pants bottoms were literally a quarter way up his shins. I’m not sure capri’s go with a suitcoat but he was rockin’ it.
Good list, I also like the shave and clean up aspect. I now usually just work 2 days and have 5 in a row off, so by the fifth day I have a decent beard again. I start looking a bit unruly.
Ha! Capris!!! Couldn’t imagine that just I dunno, ten years back??
Funny re the shaving routine. I’d grow a beard if Mrs Cubert let me!
I might need to make a list like this as well – though mine will have a lot more content to it because I actually DO like my job most of the time ? Reading this list I can see why you are exiting as soon as possible.
Angela! Thank you for your comments as always. This particular one struck a nerve and actually made me rethink the tone of what I had written. The sarcasm definitely flows stronger some days more than others. I took the opportunity to edit the post this morning. All because of your last sentence “Reading this list I can see why you are exiting as soon as possible”. There is some truth to that – reading between the lines, but I’d intended to be more sincere about the good things. I’m certainly going to exit as soon as possible for a number of other reasons, but I have to tread lightly, or I’ll find myself missing some of this routine. Thank you!!!
It is important to find the positive in everything. Many of your points hit home with me. Not all is bad about going into a day job. My biggest annoyance is that sometimes you feel like you have to be there just to keep up appearances. If this piece could be removed then it would be infinitely better.
Hey there DM! Thanks for stopping by. I would agree that often in roles I’ve felt that “face time” is important, to keep up appearances. Things have changed ever so slowly at my company to the point I don’t feel quite as bound by that. It’s more about getting the work done that matters. But man, I’m not a fan of 4PM (and especially 5PM) meetings…
“how I’ll replace the camaraderie, and how I’ll get out da house on a regular basis”
I think these two things are related and they definitely took effort for me after I FIREd. I joined a run club which helped. I’m also thinking about volunteering at the library.
Hey there, matey! I think I’ll be doing something like that too – finding a club or two, or maybe a coffee shop with regulars. Like those old farmers in small town Iowa who sit around and jaw about politics. 🙂
I like your positive take Cubert. Having left my day job 5 years ago, the likable things on your list are really easy to replace from my perspective. It is good to have a plan, however. Sometimes I hear of people who retire, but without a plan they just end up going back to work after a period of time to fill the void. Tom
Thanks, Tom! I had to tweak this post after the initial version published yesterday. Thanks to Angela I checked myself and my usual sarcastic approach to make my point a bit better.
i keep coming to this salt mine because it’s not bad, and we have a gym on site. a few weeks ago i was talking to a biker guy here and he asked me if i was going for the “homeless” look. i took that as a cue to have a shave.
The gym is a nice amenity. We have a nice one here and it’ll help immensely when I can start riding to work – hopefully Monday!
Funny how you got that honest feedback from “biker guy”. NICE.
Thanks Cubert for bringing this topic up, quite close to my heart!
I’ve spent considerable time thinking what a post-retirement life would look like. I’m a social animal. Not in the sense that I’m the life of the party, or even like to party, but I like to be around people. Collaborate, talk, get sh*t done, drink a couple of beers, solve problems (or at least pretend to solve problems by debating about the causes of social inequalities in this age; that counts right?!) I get immense satisfaction from the work I do, and the impact my work has. My work is nothing earth shattering but I enjoy it and take pride in it. I’ve enjoyed climbing the corporate ladder – promotions are surely a high I’ll miss.
I’ll give an example of how I like working around others. My work allows me the flexibility to work from home, any time. I take that opportunity at every instance when I need to. Snow day – check; sick child – check; plumber coming in – check; Champions League game on – check :D. But I cannot work from home more than 2 days in a row. I need to get into my work space, interact with live human beings, go for the occasional lunch in the cafeteria or outside.
And then when I get caught up in rush hour traffic where my usual 15 min commute changes to half an hour of me fuming in the car, I go back to thinking about not having to work for a living. This goes in cycles.
You’re welcome, sir! I’m glad it resonated!
I’m like you – somewhere in the middle of the social spectrum. I would miss the people around me, even if I’m not the most chatty among the bunch.
How far are you from your workplace? Is cycle commuting an option for you?
Garage to parking ramp, is 10 miles/15 mins, in car. Google tells me the same starting and end point is 16 miles/1.5 hours! I have to cross the river, and not enough access points. So unless I’m retired the 3 hours round trip cycling commute is not happening 😀
Course, you could consider Park and Ride as a compromise. 😉
” It’s not prison after all.”
Ever hear vacation referred to as “escape” ?
Ever NOT hear it referred to as one???
HAHA
You only need to escape when you’re a prisoner!
Think about that.
BTW Last year I changed professions and now live and work in the same 1 mile area.
As in walk / bike to “work”
Both my wife and I do now – actually …. I recommend this!!
Leave at 5 home at 5:05 NO CAR- NO PARKING NO GAS…ETC!!!!
Commuting i-as I did my whole “life” finally reached me and I ESCAPED!!!
Peace 🙂
Scott
Awesome, Scott! With the commute “slayed”, what are the remaining devils at work you’re trying to overcome?
Crazy indeed! 😉
So far I’m only missing the paycheck…but not as much as I love the rewards of my new “career”. 🙂
Hope you’re feeling better and finally getting some nicer weather.
Yes! Thanks, Amy. It’s like night and day compared to last weekend. Sunburnt already. ?
I think people just tend to get lonely after they quit their day job. Having a job is a good way to structure your life. Some people find it hard to structure their own daily routines once they become self employed or retired.
That’s definitely a big part of it, Troy. In fact I wrote about that not too long ago in the “Boredom” post.
But I do think beyond the structure, there are some borderline “fun” and rewarding aspects of the grind we need to account for. Wish me luck! 🙂
I miss the feeling of accomplishment when a chip taped out and also when it came back from the fab. It’s nice to see the product of all that work the team put into. I miss it just a little, though. Everything else, I’m fine without. 😀
You can structure your own life after ER. It’s way better because you don’t have to live your life as structured by someone else. Autonomy is really good. It took a while to get a good routine down.
Hi Joe! That’s understandable- but I’m curious are there things you miss about working with the team – e.g. work friends and acquaintances?
Good words of encouragement btw – I’m really looking forward to that autonomy myself!